Sunday, October 3, 2010

The Ability to Desecrate God's Name

Like always, I'll happily drop my plans for 'the next blog' whenever someone makes comments that demand to be answered by more than another comment.  My friend Nikki's words qualifies without question.  I should also note first, however, that much of what I would say has already been spoken by Sarah (my wife, for anyone not in the know).  We both share your belief that love is not prerequisite upon shared religious belief, or even the hope of future shared religious belief.  I'll always love you Nik - period. 

Sarah also pointed out that we don't ever want to live in Utah, because so much of what you said about the place is true.  What I would like to clarify though, is that the Utard mentality exists in spite of Mormon teachings, not because of them.  The tendency to mindlessly buy into the dominant paradigm is one of the most common of human failings.  Utards are no different than religious people living in places where other faiths are dominant.  However, this is not a "religious phenomenon" either.  Whether it's politics, fashion, or devotion to sports teams, most people just go with what is familiar and are dismissive or hostile toward anything that isn't.  LDS doctrine has always taught that this is the wrong way to approach religion, and life in general.

One of the juicier parts of your (Nikki's) comment (for me) centers on the use of religion as a tool of war.  You point out, quite correctly, that religion has always been a justification for the killing of others.  This viewpoint is quite popular today and is perhaps best captured in John Krakauer's bestselling book Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith, which even focuses on Mormonism.  Being a Mormon, the part about the Mountain Meadows Massacre was most interesting (although completely biased by anti-Mormon sources that fruitlessly try to pin the blame on Brigham Young - Krakauer is a good writer but an incredibly crappy historian).

You then went on to note that:

Religion should not make you want to kill, invade, torture, or judge anyone else but that seems to be what it does. Look at all the atrocities that have been carried out in the name of one God or another. I don't believe in or like any of those Gods.
This is where I have to disagree with you, Krakauer, and this entire perspective.  This argument presupposes that it was in fact religion that caused the violence.  As a psychotherapist, I find it to be pretty simplistic to assume that the stated justification for an action is necessarily the actual cause for an action.  In my own practice I daily deal with people who have done things that they justify through rationalizations like "it's for the greater good", "it's what I was taught to do", or "that's the way things are done".  People are always looking for something that gives them license to act badly. 

Religion offers the ultimate justification for violence.  It's the nuclear option for making poor behavior appear acceptable.  Want to attack another country?  Why not say God told you to?  This is not usually even a conscious choice.  Remember my old friend cognitive dissonance?  Our drive to reduce it can induce a belief in divine endorsement of slaughter just as easily as it could  make a teenage version of me believe I was in love with a total loser.  While it is possible to estimate how many wars were started with religious justification, it is impossible to know how many of those would have happened anyway - without the supposed endorsement of the divine.

Just as important, but even more unknowable, how many wars and atrocities have been averted by religious teachings?  How many would-be slaughters were prevented by religious teachings?  We can't know.  It's entirely possible that ten times as many people have been saved by religion as (supposedly) killed by it.  We just can't know.  It's easy to place blame concerning events that did happen - harder to give credit for events that didn't happen.

Sure, any true God could prevent people from killing in his/her name.  That would ensure that said God's name remained pristine and honorable.  However, it would also make that God a tyrant - denying his/her followers their free will.  Any loving God must be at peace with the fact that corrupting forces in our world guarantee that his/her name will be dragged through the mud due to the horrible actions carried out in his/her name.  Needless to say, if there ever were something approximating a "Satan" in this world, his number one priority would be pinning the blame for his own handiwork on God. 

12 comments:

  1. I agree with you on every point. I do not believe that any all knowing all loving God would incite war, judgment, or murder. I believe these are man's agendas and they justify them by saying their God wants it. If you believe this, how can you believe the Bible? The Bible (especially the Old Testament) is full of stories of an angry, jealous, God of war. The book of Mormon is just as violent. The God described in these books kills and curses children for things their parents or a pharaoh did. He instructs his followers to kill and lie. I don’t understand the contradiction between the loving God and what seems to be his evil twin. If you can explain some of these things in a logical manner, I would greatly appreciate it. It may take longer than either of us has right now but someday we will both be out of school and can go camping and have a theology weekend (or week). I started reading the Bible last summer before I started school which pushed the project to the background. I was not reading to find faith or answers but as a beginning place to start reading every major religious text in the world to gain knowledge of others’ beliefs. I started with the Bible because living in America I am most likely to run into Christians. I have made notes and have MANY questions. I plan on reading the Book of Mormon next.

    My biggest question about Christianity as a whole is that I do not understand the judgment and savior idea. If this “He” is truly omnipresent, omnicious and omnipotent, why does he need Jesus Christ to be the middle man between us and him? As a parent is there anything your children could do that you would never want to see them again and wish them nothing but eternal pain? If we as mere mortals can’t fathom that, how could an all loving God? The quote I’ve heard and like the best is that “God made man in his image, and then man returned the favor”. We make God out to be angry, jealous, judgmental, etc., because that is what we are and can’t imagine a being without these human emotions.

    My beliefs are complex and I don’t claim to have it all figured out but in a nut-shell: I do not think of “God” as a person, but more of an energy/consciousness. I believe we are all part of this universal consciousness, “God”, if you will. We are all connected to each other and to “God”. We made this existence as a classroom to learn things we could not learn in a different place. I believe we all decided to come here to learn lessons, we go back and share what we learned and decide if we want to come back for another lesson or not. I do not believe in evil. I believe those who are perceived to do “evil” in this life are helping us learn lessons that we would not be able to learn otherwise. For example, how can we learn forgiveness if no one ever does anything “bad” to us? Evil, much like darkness, does not exist in and of itself; it is simply the absence of light (not withstanding new dark matter theories which is a different matter, literally, and is not actually dark, just not visible), those who have lost their connection with spirit may also be perceived as evil.

    I’m starting to realize I should not read your blog less than 2 hours before I need to go to work, school, or bed since it takes quite some time to process and respond to. Unfortunately if I followed that rule, I’d never get to read your blog so I will leave my post at this and wait for your comments, next post, or for a time when we can sit face to face and give this subject the attention it deserves.

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  2. See what you started, Ryno? So much easier to blog about crochet.

    Nikki, you have many of the same ideas and questions that my girlfriend has. She knows virtually nothing about Mormons, however.

    I hope you and Ryno can find the time to correspond until you feel more at peace with the contradictions you see. I have enough of a challenge explaining Mormon doctrine to one person - not because it doesn't make sense, but every answer leads to more questions. I wish you well.

    The only advice I always give to anyone seeking the truth - including me - is to open yourself up to what feels right, no matter if it disagrees with some of your opinions.

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  3. "open yourself up to what feels right"

    If it feels good do it. Right on, bro! Pass the ganja.

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  4. Ryno, did I make you sorry you're writing a blog? Did I overwhelm you? You haven't written since my comment, I'm scared you've either gotten overwhelmed by the subject causing writers block or are writing a dissertation about it so in depth that it will take me hours to read. It's a very heavy subject that can't be resolved easily so go onto something lighter like the joys of flatulence, we can figure this out another time. I know how much you have on your plate and don't want to hold you back from blogging since it seems to be a really good stress outlet for you. I enjoy reading it very much when I get the time, it is one of my home tabs so I don't miss a post.

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  5. And here I was wondering if it was my questions regarding Ryno's beliefs in both God and aliens, that maybe they had precipitated a crisis of faith. I imagined him terrified that if he lost his religion, guns alone would not be enough for him to cling to.

    I don't want this on my conscience, so I welcome the idea that Nikki did it. Yes, it was Mrs. Whiting in the Blog with a sharp comment.

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  6. "... it was Mrs. Whiting in the Blog with a sharp comment."

    Hahaha! I rather enjoyed that bit of wit.

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  7. Thanks Michael. I'm happy to share the blame though. Maybe it was both of the incidences combined. I never thought about having a crisis of someone else's faith. I wonder if there is a psychological term for that? Ryno would know. Maybe he is having a crisis with our faith over our crisis with his faith? Oh the turmoils of the human condition!

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  8. It's nothing that exciting at all. He is, in fact, having a crisis of grad school. In the past five days the kids and I have only seen him at dinner. Then he vanishes again.

    So, it was grad school in the office with the qualifications exam.

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  9. I'm glad it's only his soul-crushing workload keeping him away. He could rename the blog Cognitive Distraction.

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  10. We've been working him too hard. Michael challenges 50% of Ryno's assertions. Nikki is going to Hell in a handbasket, the flames of perdition consuming her apostate soul (j/k!!). The sisters of Animal Planet Presents: When Sisters Attack! have temporarily flown away on their brooms to terrorize other bloggers to nervous breakdowns. Etc,etc.

    Sheesh, it's a good thing Sarah is the de facto agent/PR person/emergency contact.

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  11. It's a good thing Ryno has Sarah for a lot of reasons! Before Sarah, Ryno was also on his way to hell in a handbasket! It's great when you have someone to "have your back" and support you when the rest of the world attacks.

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